New Goodyear Territory MT 35

[The Raven]

Since forums are pretty much my only source of real-world data for choosing vehicle upgrades I want to make sure that I contribute. I upgraded to 35's last week and during my exhausting search for a tire I found very little real-world information on this tire...and what does exist does more to confuse than to clarify. There are WIDELY varying, and also widely limited, opinions on this tire. So I dove in with very little recon and really went on my consistently positive experiences with the Goodyear brand, hoping that I would not be disappointed. So far, I have not been.

The tire - Goodyear Territory MT 315/70R17. I got "Tread Pattern A", and the non-Ford spec version. This is a C-rated tire but is EXTREMELY light for its class and size. Goodyear claims 52lbs and I got 50lbs, 7oz on my calibrated hanging scale.

Much has been made about the actual size of this tire being "small". This is one of the reasons I was interested - I originally wanted a 34 but there are far fewer choices in that size and thus they tend to be more expensive than 33s or 35s. I figured maybe this was my "goldilocks" tire - a slightly small 35 that would keep me closer to the size I wanted but without the price premium. So how did that work out? Well they are a tiny bit smaller - measured mounted, at 36psi, unloaded, they measured 34.25" in diameter and 11.75" in section width. Still a bit bigger than I was hoping but I didn't have any problems fitting them with just the removal of the front mudflap bracket.

The best part - mounted and aired up, this tire/wheel combo weighs 76lbs!!! That's INCREDIBLE for this size and class. It's only 10lbs heavier than the stock 32!! That was a major concern of mine as well, as tire weight KILLS fuel mileage.

Installed (the wheels are 17x8.5" 0ET):

In terms of fitment they are pretty much perfect for me. Would have been happier with a little less diameter but for the price I will take it.

As for driving impressions - these are brand new tires, so of course everything is perfect. They are almost inaudible, ride great, stick like glue, and are impossible to spin in the rain. But I don't even have 100 miles on them. I'll be back in a few thousand to give a real review. I promise they'll be louder and i'll have some complaints. As for fuel consumption - So far I appear to have lost about 0.5mpg.

 

[Wakinvol]

Those look good!

 

[Jmzvet]

I'm guessing you wanted to run 17s for the extra sidewall and or appearance. If not, a 295 70 18 might have been for you.
The 295 70 18s are 34.3 tall and 11.6 wide which sounds like what you ultimately wanted. I might be partial since this is my setup. And the AirDesign flares get my full approval too

 

[The Raven]

I'm guessing you wanted to run 17s for the extra sidewall and or appearance. If not, a 295 70 18 might have been for you.
The 295 70 18s are 34.3 tall and 11.6 wide which sounds like what you ultimately wanted. I might be partial since this is my setup

Those are essentially metric 35's (the standard metric 35 is 34.4" in diameter). What I was looking at was a 285/75/17, which would have been 33.9" (a standard metric 34). The best option (price/quality) looked to be the Toyo Open Country AT3 but those were $323 a piece. And heavier too. Plus I have no experience whatsoever with Toyo.

So you pretty much have the same size tire I have now (as noted mine are 34.25 x 11.75). I needed to go with 17's to fit these wheels...but if I were going with your size, the cheapest suitable AT I can find is $341, and its a E-range tire (HEAVY). These Goodyears retail for $301 and using the USAA discount on the Goodyear site I paid $244. And THAT'S why i'm trying these out.

 

[GETGONE]

The Territory MT's are what came on my Trail Boss with the 20" wheel option in 265/60/20. I love them which usually most Goodyears suck from my experience. They should have gone with a 35" on the ZR2 but didn't. The Territory's are great in snow and slop and they've been my winter set since I had another set from my Avalanche I'm running for summer wheels with take off Bridgestone AT's from a GMC AT4. Certainly not as good as the Goodyears, but lots of difference between an AT and MT tire.

 

[Boss]

Hey @Raven123 - Great write up on the tires! I'm interested to see how these compare to the Goodyear Duratrac tires. What do you think after a month and more miles on them?

 

[The Raven]

Hey @Raven123 - Great write up on the tires! I'm interested to see how these compare to the Goodyear Duratrac tires. What do you think after a month and more miles on them?

Not a whole lot has changed. I think i'm at about 800 miles since I put them on. They make some noise, but it's a much "duller" sound than the Duratrac...but again I have to qualify - these tires don't even have 1000 miles on them yet. Loud tires don't generally get loud until they start closing in on 20k miles. The Duratracs were really quiet at this low mileage also. Traction appears to be as good as the Duratrac, which is great news because the Duratrac is the best AT tire i've ever used in terms of traction. They've seen dirt, gravel, and rain and performed on par with the Duratrac...though the real test will be in November when the cold comes. So we'll see how that goes at that time.

One definite big improvement - I finally got a speedometer translator box to get my speedo correct, and after driving for a few weeks with it working right, it's very difficult to say that i've lost ANY MPG over the stock tires. I go through a pretty wide range of driving and haven't done a whole lot of miles, but I know when I put E-Range tires on my Tahoe back in 2015, the loss was IMMEDIATELY apparent. I don't see any at all with these tires. So that's awesome.

 

[2KWIK2C]

In terms of fitment they are pretty much perfect for me. Would have been happier with a little less diameter but for the price I will take it.

As for driving impressions - these are brand new tires, so of course everything is perfect. They are almost inaudible, ride great, stick like glue, and are impossible to spin in the rain. But I don't even have 100 miles on them. I'll be back in a few thousand to give a real review. I promise they'll be louder and i'll have some complaints. As for fuel consumption - So far I appear to have lost about 0.5mpg.

Time to have it chipped and get the gas mileage back.

 

[knarf7765]

Time to have it chipped and get the gas mileage back.

What chip are you using? for the 2023's gen 3 still not able to find anything. I havnt looked for a while but hoping things changed.

 

[knarf7765]

Not a whole lot has changed. I think i'm at about 800 miles since I put them on. They make some noise, but it's a much "duller" sound than the Duratrac...but again I have to qualify - these tires don't even have 1000 miles on them yet. Loud tires don't generally get loud until they start closing in on 20k miles. The Duratracs were really quiet at this low mileage also. Traction appears to be as good as the Duratrac, which is great news because the Duratrac is the best AT tire i've ever used in terms of traction. They've seen dirt, gravel, and rain and performed on par with the Duratrac...though the real test will be in November when the cold comes. So we'll see how that goes at that time.

One definite big improvement - I finally got a speedometer translator box to get my speedo correct, and after driving for a few weeks with it working right, it's very difficult to say that i've lost ANY MPG over the stock tires. I go through a pretty wide range of driving and haven't done a whole lot of miles, but I know when I put E-Range tires on my Tahoe back in 2015, the loss was IMMEDIATELY apparent. I don't see any at all with these tires. So that's awesome.

looking at these same tires. What is your suspension set up to get these to fit?

 

[GETGONE]

What chip are you using? for the 2023's gen 3 still not able to find anything. I havnt looked for a while but hoping things changed.

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[The Raven]

looking at these same tires. What is your suspension set up to get these to fit?

I have the readylift 1.75" front level, but i'm only using the top spacer. I don't want the truck ACTUALLY level...just a bit less raked. So it's about 1" higher than stock in the front, and has the Readylift control arms. Otherwise stock TB suspension. I did have to remove the mudflap bracket - I just removed the mudflap, then the bracket, then mounted the mudflap back up without the bracket. I did have to drill a new hole in the flap to match up with the bracket mount hole so I could re-use the bracket bolt. The tire now clears with about 3/4" in the tightest spot on the backside of the front fender, and over 1" on the front side when I still had my stock bumper, but now with the Warn bumper there's miles of clearance.

Also of interest - my wheels are 17x8.5 0 offset. The more positive offset you have, the easier it will be to fit. I like 0 because it puts the tires roughly flush with my fender flares. If you go out further, like the common -12 offset, you will probably have to do more trimming.