Seeking Trail Boss info

[DuckyDJ]

So…I’m pissed off at Toyota & Toyota dealership!

Converting to Chevy!!

And I’ve never had a full-size pick-up truck. As stupid & irresponsible as it may be at this time, I have ordered a 2022 LT Trail Boss in Sand Dune Metallic. …With some nice packages/options.

I would ask that the Trail Boss enthusiasts on here overlook my irresponsible & impulsive behavior – and offer any information (pros/cons) you might have. I just saw a video of some guy talking about the worst vehicles to buy in 2022 – and Chevy Silverado was one of the top 10. That concerned me since the Trail Boss is basically a Silverado.

Reason I opted for the Trail Boss is because I simply think it looks better than the GMC Sierra AT4 and other makes.

I welcome any/all comments.

 

[Tokolosh]

Well, you did call him "some guy" so how much stock to put in his opinion doesn't take a lot of analysis.

Here is the thing, there is so little that separates the OEMs anymore. There are lots of lists out there that track quality issues but the design and engineering now is far more consistent among the automakers than it ever has been. Every automaker has issues that affects some small portion of their buyers. Yes, there are issues among Trail Boss buyers too and we've got several threads here covering those. But we also have a ton of folks here that love their truck and can even call their own vehicle "bullet proof".

Issues get people talking. Great performance gets far less coverage and conversation. I'm in a 2020 and would buy again without hesitation.

 

[PHXPHOTOG]

The Trail Boss and the GMC AT4 are both Silverados when it comes to all major parts and will share the same issues be it good or bad. All major vehicle manufacturers are having their own set of problems. As a Trail Boss owner obviously I am concerned about the lifter issue. But after all the volumes of reports I have read I still can't find hard numbers and good data so I'm taking my chances. The internet makes a ton of information available to us. Especially bad news. Everyone that has an issue goes right to the web and screams very loudly about it (I would). In 2021 GMC reports selling 768,689 Silverado/GMC Sierra trucks. I wish I knew the real number of lifter related failures? The problem is real. We just don't know the odds.

Dodge is having major problems with the famed Cummins diesel engines.

Yesterday it was announced some of the new Ford Broncos are experiencing "catastrophic engine failures". Possibly related to lifters. Sound familiar? It will be interesting to see how that plays out. Some of those owners put money down two years ago and waited for those trucks through one delay after another. Most of the delays were probably not Fords fault. But still, money down and a two year wait is not for me. Especially on a new vehicle with no real world use by owners.

I believe no one knows the reliability of a vehicle until it has a proven track record. GM has produced millions of Silverados. I had a 2004 Chevy Avalanche with a 5.3. I drove it for 16 years and almost 200,000 miles. Towed a heavy trailer and beat the crap out of it off road. I put a radiator and a water pump on it. That's it. When it was time to replace it I did not even look at Fords or Dodge. I got a 2021 TB LT. Currently around 14,000 and over 1,000 of those are off road. Flawless so far. My fingers are crossed though. It's a shame the US big three manufactures can't seem to build more reliability into these amazing vehicles.

Enjoy your Trail Boss. They are incredible trucks in almost every way.

Kind Regards,

Steve

My post and Tokolosh crossed at the same time. Obviously I agree with him.

 

[Jmzvet]

100% agree with the above. I might be in the minority by actually keeping the DFM and start/stop activated. I don’t believe they contribute to the lifter issues. I could be wrong but I could be right

 

[RocketIIITurbo]

What everyone above said. 317,000 on my '07 Silverado. 267,000 on my 2014 Traverse. All manufacturers have their problems. My 2021 TB is running Chevy Performance pipes + Pulsar LT. 25,000 miles since Aug '21. Only oil changes and rotation.

 

[Snake Boots]

If this guy on the internet was Scotty Kilmer, just know he seems to hate everything that isn’t a Toyota or Honda sedan. I like some of his videos, but sometimes he’s off on his opinions.

Also, keep in mind that many people who post online are enthusiasts like most of us on here or people who have problems. Sort of like the dilemma of online restaurant or business reviews, hundreds to thousands of customers weekly with no issue but the few that have a negative experience express it online and their voices end up being the loudest.

There are thousands upon thousands of Silverado drivers on the road who drive without issue and from what I’ve seen the service centers at the Chevy dealers don’t seem to be chock full of Silverados.

 

[DuckyDJ]

Thank you friends!
Another question. With one of the packages, I got some special exhaust that's supposed to sound SWEET! Is anyone familiar?
I'm excited to get it. But at this point, it's just ordered. Better not get my hopes up.

 

[Tokolosh]

Thank you friends!
Another question. With one of the packages, I got some special exhaust that's supposed to sound SWEET! Is anyone familiar?
I'm excited to get it. But at this point, it's just ordered. Better not get my hopes up.

Chevy uses Borla for their upgrade and it’s a popular aftermarket choice. Your truck will sound awesome!

 

[Scottnweeze]

Ducky: I’m with you all the way. I’ve got a 2019 Tundra and my TB 6.2 will be here any day. I was ready to go with another Tundra, but the new design looks like a 5 yr old with a Lego set designed it (no offense to 5yr olds). I realized that I bought it for reliability but it just didn’t thrill me. Just seeing my TB was produced ( with the 6.2 no less) gave me more of a jolt than I ever experienced towing or driving with the Tundra., and the new Tundras are having issues as well. I’m going to stick with the DFM for now and do lots of oil changes… those Silverado owners I work with have hundreds of thousands of miles on um. I have a Diamondback cover in the garage ready to go, and my trailer and I are going to put it through it’s paces. Plenty of OR opportunities here in CO as long as I can avoid the Colorado pinstriping. There’s always nay sayers, but life’s too short to listen. Enjoy your truck, and let’s circle around after a few months of ownership!!

 

[PHXPHOTOG]

Ducky: I’m with you all the way. I’ve got a 2019 Tundra and my TB 6.2 will be here any day. I was ready to go with another Tundra, but the new design looks like a 5 yr old with a Lego set designed it (no offense to 5yr olds). I realized that I bought it for reliability but it just didn’t thrill me. Just seeing my TB was produced ( with the 6.2 no less) gave me more of a jolt than I ever experienced towing or driving with the Tundra., and the new Tundras are having issues as well. I’m going to stick with the DFM for now and do lots of oil changes… those Silverado owners I work with have hundreds of thousands of miles on um. I have a Diamondback cover in the garage ready to go, and my trailer and I are going to put it through it’s paces. Plenty of OR opportunities here in CO as long as I can avoid the Colorado pinstriping. There’s always nay sayers, but life’s too short to listen. Enjoy your truck, and let’s circle around after a few months of ownership!!

What part of CO? I love CO. Ouray is one of my old stomping grounds. In August I am going up there to do the entire Alpine Loop in my 2021 TB. I did Ouray to Silverton via Corkscrew Gulch several years ago in an 2004 Avalanche with 150,000 miles on it at the time. It rocked it.

I live in Phoenix. Desert pinstriping is the worst. Everything here has sharp stickers that cut through the clear coat. My paint job is pretty trashed after a year and a half and 1,500 miles off road. Those are not badges of honor, I hate the damage but I bought it to wheel it. It's part of the price I pay for all of the incredible places it takes me! I have said many times these things are very capable off roaders. It is my 5th 4wd vehicle and it climbs like my old Jeeps.

Here is a link to a video I posted on this board from last summer's' trip to Moab. Utah is also an incredible state:

Chevy Trailboss Pics

www.trailboss.org

Kind Regards,

Steve

 

[Scottnweeze]

We live in the Roaring Fork Valley beteeen Glenwood Springs and Aspen… I work in Snowmass. Not a day goes by I’m not in awe of the beauty of this state. We hit that area a lot for OR, parking the trailer at Ridgway St Park…. The San Juan’s are amazing.

 

[Scottnweeze]

Thanks for the pics, love Moab early and late, to damn hot otherwise!

 

[Tanner22]

2020 TB owner here. 46,000 flawless miles so far. Traded in a Tacoma for the TB, no regrets.

 

[DuckyDJ]

@Tokolosh...
I referenced a video I saw on You Tube in a post above - to which you hinted to not put any stock in his opinion.
It was called "Cars To Avoid In 2022" by "Everyman Driver" - and dated January 2022.
In that video, he stated that the Chevy Silverado 1500 was one of the worst pickup trucks for 2022.
I just stumbled upon another video by the same guy called "10 Best Trucks for 2022 on Everyman Driver" - and that one was dated February 2022.
In that video, he had the Chevy Silverado as #3 in the top five full size pickup trucks.

Perhaps best to just never mind the videos!!

 

[clstark7]

So…I’m pissed off at Toyota & Toyota dealership!

Converting to Chevy!!

And I’ve never had a full-size pick-up truck. As stupid & irresponsible as it may be at this time, I have ordered a 2022 LT Trail Boss in Sand Dune Metallic. …With some nice packages/options.

I would ask that the Trail Boss enthusiasts on here overlook my irresponsible & impulsive behavior – and offer any information (pros/cons) you might have. I just saw a video of some guy talking about the worst vehicles to buy in 2022 – and Chevy Silverado was one of the top 10. That concerned me since the Trail Boss is basically a Silverado.

Reason I opted for the Trail Boss is because I simply think it looks better than the GMC Sierra AT4 and other makes.

I welcome any/all comments.

This is interesting to me because Chevrolet exceeds industry standards for dependability, according to JD Power and Associates. This includes all models, as it sorts by manufacturer. They beat out Ram and Ford!